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GM TECH2 review: programming ok & diagnosis ok

November 9, 2017 by 3635OBD2  

Is GM TECH2 a full function device that will allow BCM access to reprogram for Remote Key fobs and steering control modules, etc. or is it simply a diagnostic tool?


Professional answer:

Full blown and updated to current software, and you will get a cracked copy of TIS2000. The glitch, is that the TIS2000 has been cracked so it does not connect to the GM site to authorize the software, so if you need to download a updated flash file from GM, your not going to be using the cracked version of TIS2000 to do so.


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So, the tool itself will allow code programming and testing just like a real GM Tech II, and you don’t need to use Tis2000 at all to do this with the tool.

Its when you are trying to reflash a module with upgraded software instead, and where you need to have access to the needed update file that things get a little more difficult instead. With TIS2000 (used mostly for updating software in the module), the TechII becomes a pass-through module so you can connect the car to a laptop and upgrade the software.

Since the cracked version of Tis2000 is not connecting to GM, it can’t be used to try to download the needed file from GM directly instead.

Here is you can’t find a source for the needed file other than GM direct, then GM does sell a one day subscription for $55 that you use instead. Hence you will uninstall the cracked Tis2000 version, install a normal Tis2000 version and use your one day key to activate it, down load the needed file for GM, and use it with the clone as pass-thou to reflash a module instead.
Note, if you do this, download all the files you can get your hands on during that one day for your car, and store them so you have them for a laster date if you need to change a module down the road and need to flash it at a later date.

As for the cracked version of Tis2000, it does make life a little simpler with the tool, since it saves a lot of Tech II button clicking instead. hence instead of using the tool as stand alone, your using your laptop to drive the tools normal functions instead.
Note, the tech II comes with a rs-232 cable to connect to your laptop. Since most new laptops do not have a RS-232 data port, then you will need not only a USB cable instead, but the needed driver for the USB cable as well.


Credits to @Dano523 CF Senior Member.


Hottest topic:

GM Tech2 scanner SP23-B3, SP23-1, SP23-B, SP23-C, what are the differences


You have to look carefully at what is included. For example the -B comes with the case but the memory card is not listed or shown. The -B3 came with all the accessories but no case which reduced shipping cost by quite a bit. You can’t go wrong with the -B3. It has everything but the case.


Tips Help you choose suitable Tech II:
All Tech2 have the same function, their differences are :


SP23-B is the best Tech2 with Black Carry box, more stable

SP23-B3 is the SP23-B with carton box and best quality

SP23,SP23-C is the same as SP23-B, it also includes the Black carry box, but comes from another manufacture.

SP23-1 is the most cost effective one, it is with carton box, will help you save much more money.



What’s the difference between Orange 5 genuine and copy version

November 9, 2017 by 3635OBD2  

Orange 5 Programmer Original VS clone,Let’s check the PCB, adapters, capabilities, and reviews here.



Orange5 original price: US$1,299

Orange 5 clone price: US$179



Left: Original

Right: Clone

Orange5 original vs clone



OEM Orange 5 (clone) : Blue board and adapters

Original Orange5: Green board and adapters

Clone comes with software CD cause software is not able to download and update

Original does not with CD, you can download it on official website scorpio-lk.com.

Orange5 original comes with more adapters





PCB layouts:





So, what’s the difference when using Orange 5 genuine and copy version? Read the reviews here. Customers talk the truth.


Genuine Orange 5 review:

Orange 5 Original vs Clone:

Do not get confused by Orange pricing. Orange charge separately for the device, the immo software, the airbag software and the radio software, plus a few specials.

All this comes with the clone.

To compare the two, you must add up all the costs from Orange. There is a very large saving if you buy the clone. But you cannot update it and you have no support from Scorpio. It will suit some people for sure. The adapters are poor quality, and for many the hardware does not work. No doubt as time goes by will will see huge threads about how to fix them. The company who makes it does not have a good reputation for quality or support.


I do not regret buying original Orange5 and Tango key programmer. But when I did there were no clones available as an alternative.


As for the Tango clone, it’s PCB and components are nothing like the original, and of a very poor quality. I have not seen inside an Orange5 clone yet.


Clone Orange5 reviews/test report:


I buy Orange5 china clone. Work great. Now i check in hc05b8, hc11e9, end eproms. All read and write very fast.

I have never had any problems with clone, everything works as it should, knock on wood.

I don’t know is there any scripts but softwares for immo,radio and dash coming together with clone.



On Hc908az60 secured it work’s good.

I have 4 secured mcu, and they work ok.

I have tried 68hc11, allot of eproms, and it work’s just perfect.

I don’t have right now anithing else.

Clone but includes – Immo HPX 9V0

confirmed that oem orange 5 comes with immo hpx 9.0 and adapter set



I have clone and work perfect.

2j74y ok

35080 ok

Tms immo opel ok

Hc05 immo old vw ok



I have Orange 5 clone and everything works perfect for now.

I tested with 1J35D,4J74Y,1D69J,0D69J,0F82B,3K91D,TMS370c702



OEM clone seem work good after report from some users. Just need rework solder points on Moto adapter.

I am not aware of a clone Orange 5 yet. But if it says not updatable then it must be a clone. Original ones are sold by Chinese sellers as well. Prices can vary depending on the bundled software.



i have this Orange5 clone and work everytime with him. not work car radio option.i think isn’t bad clone and not expansive.



I have just bought orange 5 programmer and all seems to work well happy

I got fed up with my genuine upa usbs programmer which didn’t seem to want to read anything, it went through the motions and said success reading a load of zeros gavel

Straight out of the box this Orange 5 clone read and write eproms 95640 and 95P08C3 in circuit no problem with no errors, but I had to make sure that my connections to the chip via test clip were all good and then tool work like charm nerd

I think I like it so far.



I have it for a long time and for now everything is working properly.

One of the few clones that works well and works as an original.

So far its reading and writing (with verify) all eeproms i try. Good tool so far.

Some adapters are not supplied and must be purchased separately Adapters should be resolder for sure but it isn’t so bad ,at all

The main point orange 5 clone isn’t so bad as clones can be.

Good investment for sure .


I like PIN checking function (test insertions) very much .It saved my job a lot of time.

In combination with my UPA -S,CarProg,and mini pro TL866 a lot of job can be done successfully .

Great programmer. All that is stated works. If the speed of exchange is not important, you can do a lot. Many good calculators.



You make your choice.



Kess V2 5.017 customer review

November 8, 2017 by 3635OBD2  

Kess V2 5.017 customer review:


Have make pictures from KessV2 eu China version with eu case.

works good and fast r/w over obd.

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I have tested on:


Peugeot 3072.0hdi

2002 year


Read ok. Write ok

Ford cmax1.6 cdti



Read ok. Write ok


BMW 323i

2500 24v N52B25


Siemens msv80

Read ok. Write ok


Golf 1.9 tdi2007


Read ok. Write failed corupt eeprom , restore with KTAG full bdm

Citroen jumper2.8hdi



Read failed open ecu and boot mode with another tool (MPPS v18)



How To Change 2014 Ford New Mondeo Mileage With Lonsdor K518ISE

November 7, 2017 by 3635OBD2  

Here's a demo guide on change mileage on a  2014 Ford New Mondeo  via  Lonsdor K518ISE with color instrument by OBD.




Connect K518 host with vehicle via OBD diagnostic socket

Select Odometer adjustment function on main menu


Select Ford->New Mondeo->Color dash-> Odometer correction







You must backup eeprom data before mileage correction


Turn ignition to ON position






Save original mileage data to bin format


Press YES to change mileage


Enter new mileage you desired and confirm




Change km in progress...

You'll see the dashboard is in black and the yellow indicator on Lonsdor K518 programmer flashes




Odometer correction success.







(Solved) SDconnect DAS CAL error number 830

November 6, 2017 by 3635OBD2  

If you have installed Xentry/Das like me ,and meet this problem ,how to do ? After i made xentry and das registration i have error connection. I have try many bin files but the same.

When SDconnect C4 recognise car voltage, can’t recognise vin so doesn’t make diagnosis !

Photos of error message:








sdconndect config


vin error



Please help to resolve my problem !




DAS CAL830 error is because this new DAS was never intended to be used with an old Part D MUX..


To solve DAS CAL830 error:


Change bin file

Before change bin you must rename your old bin..

Maybe you already have Mixed bin at your DAS program..


Got a grreat knock off GM TECH2, it works great on GM Corvettes!!! I

November 6, 2017 by 3635OBD2  

I took some pictures of mine, quality of the cables and connectors and even the discs it comes with. you don’t need to download the manual , it’s on the data disk

The unit itself ….and the software CD’s … pretty good knockoffs, I think it’s like the others stated , it is a TECH II

gm tech unit-01

and here is the CANDI unit and cables ….. pretty high quality stuff along with one of the 12 volt adapters

gm tech candi interface-02

And another shot of the data disks .. as you can see the labels were not made with an INK JET printer … and the a second cigarette lighter 12 volt power cable

gm tech unit-03


and ….every cable and cable end you would need to connect to any GM car.

gm tech cable-04


but wait, if you act today there is more …..

gm tech full package-05


Personally, I can verify that they look to be the real CDs that come with the GM Tech 2 units.


GM Tech2 feedback on Corvettes C5:

-> Take 2011 Corvette LS3 for example, use it as a diagnostic tool /TCM reset tool , accessed the ABS and BCM modules and to turn on and off certain toggles etc.

-> Mine software is out of date, but I can get into most everything that I have tried to so far on newer cars. I used the “Global OBD II” under the VIN info page. I have not tried to program anything this way, but I have been able to access all the different modules on the CAN buss.

But I was suggested to update by getting the newest PC card from one of the online sellers, 2011 is the last update that GM did on the Tech 2 for Corvettes, so the newer units being sold all have the latest software already loaded on the GM card. Below is the latest card for GM for the Tech 2..From their site…

32MB Card for GM TECH2 (GM OPEL SAAB ISUZU SUZUKI & Holden)(Item No. SO22-C) $21.99

Their description: Works with GM TECH2, contain the latest software for GM TECH2. It has six kinds of software, SAAB, OPEL, GM, ISUZU, Suzuki and Holden. Customers can choose one type of software to be loaded to this 32MB Card.



Didn’t work on certain GM trucks


Overall, GM tech2 clone is a priceless tool, a $250.00 device does everything that the $5,000 device does …things that make you go ” Hmmmmm”. Besides, it works for more than Corvettes… there are a lot of repair shops that are using a knock off. Several users over on C5 have bought them and reports are positive from what I saw…


Where is the good place to have Tech 2 unit clone?

I bought mine from

http://www.obd2eshop.com/wholesale/gm-tech2-gm-diagnostic-scanner.html, because it’s working and sales at cheaper price after I learnt from this forum www.corvetteforum.com/forums.








Cummins INSITE Pro 8.2.0 download + how to crack

November 2, 2017 by 3635OBD2  

Cummins insitepro8.2.0 download:


Unlimited use on any PC; Unknown security


Cummins insite pro 8.1 download:


Cummins insitelite 8.1 download:



Both Insite 8.1 Pro and Lite are crack versions;

100% tested & works good, look here:

cummins-insite-pro-8.1-download cummins-insite-pro-8.1-download-1



Insite 8.2.0 review: How to crack Cummins INSITE software 8.2.0:


I have made some progress on cracking Cummins INSITE 8.2.0 and possibly coming up with a key gen for this product. I just need some help. If this product has already been cracked, someone please let me know.

I ran through using IDA Pro and Ollydbg. So far I was able to create a basic key from what it looks like it was doing.




I’ve made some good progress. Shouldn’t be too much longer before I have a full KG with each version type. I’m attempting to get ahold of Sultan as it appears he may be the only person who has cracked it. I was able to successfully activate my copy with a BASIC and PRO license with the original License Configuration Tool. One .DLL is patched to prevent the tool from calling out for online verification, instead it performs an offline activation. The first key I mentioned works until year 2030.


I’ve had major success. Instead of going my normal route, I was able to actually bring back the security menu from version 7.6 and make it work with version 8.2.0. Fully eliminating the use of Cummins License Config Tool. You can actually uninstall it altogether after installing INSITE 8.2.0, as INSITE no longer calls it to open upon load either. The keygens from 7.6.x will then work as well and allow the program to run as normal.




Where to get Xentry full package Winodws image Dell D630

November 2, 2017 by 3635OBD2  


i am looking for afull image of a dell d630 hard drive, with full xentry das system, including vediamo offline scn coding wis partsfinder parts cataloge

can be configured for mb star c3 multiplexer

thank you very much in advance

Reply: Try here:http://www.mbstartool.com/wholesale/v201605-mb-star-c3-software-256gb-ssd.html


XENTRY Diagnostics OpenShell 2016.05 for C3

100% working and native installation on Windows 7 / Windows 8


– Easy to activate by yourself, with the help of Activation Guide: http://blog.mbstartool.com/2016/03/15/mb-star-c3-sd-c4-2016-03-das-xentry-activation/

– 256GB SSD for Dell D630, not HDD

               MB STAR C3 SSD VS Common HDD in Terms of Running Speed

D630 with 4GB RAM

Time to boot

Time to shutdown

Time to enter xentry for single vehicle


About 90 seconds

About 20 Seconds

About 145 seconds

Common HDD

About 240 Seconds

About 50 Seconds

About 207 Seconds

D630 laptop with 1GB


About 195 seconds

About 22 Seconds

About 248 Seconds

Common HDD

About 300 Seconds

About 120 Seconds

About 307 Seconds


– Xentry.OpenShell.XDOS 2016.05
– WIS 2016.03 EWANet
– EPC 2016.03 EWANet
– EPC Mercedes Pricelist 2017.06 integrated
– SD SDmedia 2014.01
– Starfinder v2008 fixed, with HTTP server
– Mercedes Pricelist 70

– A lot of fixes to improve core system performance
– Some useful tools
– Special security system for your star c3
– Professional support @mbstartool.com of course





Super SBB2 Key Programmer wins old SBB2&CK100

November 1, 2017 by 3635OBD2  

Super SBB2 Key Programmer is more powerful than SBB V46.02, SBB V33.02 and CK100 V46.02 in multi-functional and testable newest car models. Super SBB2 functions: immobilizer function + mileage adjustment, Oil/service Reset, TPMS EPS,BMS etc. Super SBB2 can work on vehicles up to 2017 year ( read the last paragraph for reviews).


  1. Super SBB2 wins in full package

SBB2 Key Programmer is packed with more optional adapters incl. good quality of main unit, OBDII-16 connector, HONDA-3 connector, HYUNDAI/KIA-10 connector, KIA-20 connector, main cable, TF card reader and TF card in the unit.

super sbb2 package

SBB2 main unit is built in with less buttons and easier to use, also the main cable port, keyboard and the USB port are all made firmly.

 super sbb2 mux

V46.02 SBB Key Programmer package: SBB Main Unit, OBDII cable, AC adapter and one CD with user manual

v4602-version-sbb-key-programme package

V33.02 SBB Key Programmer package: SBB Main Unit, OBDII cable, AC adapter and one CD with user manual


  1. SBB2 key programmer wins in multi-functions

2017 Super SBB2: immobilizer function + mileage adjustment, Oil/service Reset, TPMS EPS,BMS etc.

SBB2 immobilizer function list:

  1. New keys programming;
    2. Reads keys from immobilizer’s memory;
    3. New immobilizer programming;
    4. New ECU programming;
    5. New mechanical key number programming;
    6. Vehicle Identification Number programming;
    7. Reset ECU & reset immobilizer;
    8. Easy to operate by the guided menu programming;
    9. New remote controller programming;
    10. Immo PINCODE reader;
    11. Odometer adjustment(Via obd);
    12. With full and strong database for the most important vehicle makes;

SBB V46.02 function list:

  1. Programming new keys.
    2. Reading keys from immobilizers memory
    3. Deactivating keys no longer in the car owners possession
    4. Operation by means of a menu guided programming
    5. Programming new remote controls
    6. Software with full database containing all the most important vehicle makes

CK100 function = SBB V46.02


SBB V33.02 function list:

1.reading keys from immobilizer’s memory
2.deactivating keys no longer in the car owner’s possession
3.operation by means of a menu guided programming
4.programming new remote controls
5.software with full database containing all the most important vehicle makes


  1. SBB2 key programmer wins in vehicle coverage

1) 2017 Super SBB2: up to 2017.3 year.


OBDII: OBDII V20.80 for diagnose
Electronic Park Brak: V22.71
TPMS: V19.20
TPS: V27.66
Odometer: AUDI, VW, BENZ, Chrysler, Ford, GM, Porsche, Skoda, Seat

Tip: Read Super SBB2 reviews & test reports in the last paragraph.


2) SBB V46.02 vehicle coverage VS SBB V33.02:

Toyota G chip…works

Toyota Honda Ford up to 2014 year…works

Acura 2012, Chevrolet 2013, GMC 2013 …works

SBB V33.02: up to 2011 year.


3) CK-100 V46.02


sbb v46.02 acura-02 sbb v46.02 acura-03 sbb v46.02 acura-04 sbb v46.02 acura-05


BTW, SBB V46.02 VS CK-100 V46.02, Which one is better?

Same Toyota G Chip

Same software version

Same function

Same vehicle coverage: SBB v33.02


CK-100 V46.02 has better quality and more popular among locksmiths.


To sum up:

Super SBB2: wins in multi-functions, newest car models, etc.

CK100 V46.02: perform as the same functions and same vehicles as SBB V46.02, but has better quality and well-received by locksmiths.


Read Super SBB2 IMMO & remote and mileage correction feedback:

Part 1: SUPER SBB2 KEY Pro IMMO & Remote:

-Maruthi Suzuki key programming in 2 min , Hyundai I 20 key programming done , Hyundai verna fludic remote done in few seconds. Yes, it can do key lost and also u can add.

-Honda cars,both making a spare and all key lost and remote programming,so far never failed.

-Mitsubishi Pajero 2014. All key lost OK.

-Hyundai i 10 Key ok…

-Hyundai i 10 remote ok .

-Hyundai i 10 grand remote in 2 min ok

-honda crv 2008 remote and key ok

-jeep cherokee 2008 remote and key ok

-mazda cx9 2009 smart key ok

-Ford Eecosport 2015 Flip key programming ok…

-Suzuki Ignis 2003 all lost key, programming new key OK.

-Hyundai GETS 2007 KEY OK


-Range rover sport hse 2012 start button , all key lost OK

-2013 Elantra remote OK

-2007 VW Rabbit add key and remote OK

-2012 Town&County smart key OK

-2002 Jetta add key FAIL (vehicle not supported msg, cant even read pin code)

-2007 Quest add key OK

-2008 Accord add key OK

-2016 Subaru Forester add keys OK, remote program FAIL

-Range rover sport 2007 add key ok

-subaru outback 2008 add key ok

-infinity fx 2009 smart key ok

-Audi a4 2006 rb8 dash diesel engine read pin from ecu Ok

-Mazda 2 2009 all ok job done in seconds

-Tucson 2014 .. key and remote programing ok


-ford raptor 2012 key programing ok at least 2 keys must have

-ford expedition 2011 all key lost ok

-accent 2012 key programing pin read ok

-i10 2012 read pin and swap ecu (ecm neutrelize) ok all ok

-prado txl and gx 2013 smart key programing ok

-prado 2012 ignition key programing ok

-Good tool for Honda. transponder + smart even all keys lost.

-Nissan leaf,Xtrail both are ok

-Toyota Hilux add g chip key easily. did one for all keys lost with eeprom adapter too.

-Toyota innova key added Ok

-2010 Ford Ranger,4D63.. all key lost OK.

– Mazda 5 2006 all key lost ok

– Honda Amaze petrol 2015 key + remote in 15 min ok

Chevrolet camaro 2010 ALL KEY LOST ok, but you have to put security code…x100pro cannot read it

– Mitsubishi pagero 2012 yes

-Mazda cx9 2011 programmed smart key ok

-Renault v30.50 pin code read logan 2008 OK



Part 2: SUPER SBB2 Mileage Correction Feedback:

GM vehicles…test ok:

Chevy Trailblazer 2008 & 2004 Fail “Fail to connect” …tried a few other chevy but the miles reading was far off.

Town and Country 2009 – OK…Surprisingly it did both Cluster and SRI in one shot.

Chevy Avalanche 2007-2012/2013 OBD Read & Write = OK

Chevrolet silverado 2007 ok

cadillac escalade 2010 ok ( it show old mileage)

gmc terrain 2010 ok (show old mileage)

cadillac srx 2010 ok(show old mileage- need to turn ignition off then on to show new mileage)

Chevrolet Aveo / Sonic 2013, try to lower it by Aveo / Sonic, the reading was correct, but to re-enter the new mileage: fail security, treated by Cadillac ATS 2013, and there were no problems, perfect job.

Chevy cruze 2016 —- ok 30s

Chevrolet Captiva 2009 year, micro motorola, all ok working

Chevrolet suburban 2007 ok .. it show old mileage…. i have do 3

Vauxhall Vivaro 2013 – couldnt do it

Chevrolet Trailblazer 2015 OK, 5 seconds job for rollback KM

GMC c4500 2004 work with GMC Savana OK

– gmc captiva 2008 ok

– GMC Savanna 2016 year Mileage OK ,

Chevy captiva 2009 …… great success



Jaguar Landrover…test ok


Jaguar XE 2015 obd ok first backup then do mileage

Range Rover 2011 OBD ok

Range rover Evoque 2013 ODOMETER_MILEAGE ok

Range Rover Evoque 2014 flawless

Range rover 2013 ok ( doesn’t show old mileage…. it ask you only yo write new mileage )

Range Rover Evouge 2016 – miles OK

Pathfinder 2015 – OBD =OK Read & Write.



VAG vehicles…test ok:


Audi A4 2007 ok

04 audi a4 rb4 OK.. Around 10min

Audi q5 2011 ok wait 15 min

Audi A4 RB4 2004 OK

A3 2005, Fujitsu – OK

04 audi a4 rb4 OK.. Around 10min

Audi A4 2004 OK…  ….

Audi A4 2007 RB8 OK

-audi s4 2008 is ok working

-A3 2007 – OK

-audi A4 …2013 perfect ….8 min.

-aud Q5 2010 obd about 20minutes

– audi A5 2008 obd about 20minutes

– 2012 A1 Audi 1.4tfsi does it go via obd



Chevy Malibu 2015 OK



eventually OK…

VW Passat 3BG 2002 -> OBD (KLine) = ok

2015 Range Rover Vogue



Seat Ibiza 6J 2010 -> OBD = OK

How to solve BMW E71 EGS update failed

October 27, 2017 by 3635OBD2  

I came across a post, thanks @ CodeMstr on bmwcoding.com, I put the problem and solution here in order to help more people.


Question: I have tried to update EGS software with winkfp, my old assembly number was 7624480, I tried to update to 7644113 I started update procedure with no error when it complete update process 100% it gave following error.


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I tried 2 times result not changed, my car is not operable now, gives lots of errors about EGS, DSC etc. I used winkfp 5.1.3 on windows 10 x64 with k+dcan inpa cable.

After second process my car gave warning battery is low so I gave up trying I will get a power source for 14 V 15A . it s on the way the better power source i can find is that.

What would you advice me to do, I cannot revert back because I dont have SP_Daten files which includes 7624480 software.


Good suggests:

Try to update to newer or older version.


Finally, I have solved the problem, thanks for everyone who read this post and try to help me.

I used ICOM next to fix the problem.


Not sure where CodeMstr get ICOM Next from, but ensure he get it from China since only Chinese market is available with ICOM next. Here I highly recommend www.obd2eshop.com who supplies ICOM Next at a cheaper price and able to pay by Paypal, delivery in one week.

ICOM next here:

Not take a real picture, but attach the picture they took, full package with ICOM NEXT, B Most , 20pin Cable, USB Cable,  LAN Cable and OBD Cable.


Not sure what differences ICOM next from ICOM and ICOM A2, but according to their description, you could learn something:

BMW ICOM NEXT vs the ICOM 1st generation

-> much faster in BMW F and G series ..

-> supports gigabit Ethernet too to be future proof, there currently is not gigabit Ethernet protocol defined yet for autos. Also it has USB3.0 instead of USB2.0 and a better wifi card.


That’s all.